Is the World and mainstream media Rewarding Hamas for Its Atrocities and condemning Israel for defending itself? (Part3)
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HAMAS SURRENDER NOW- WAR GOES ON UNTIL HAMAS SURRENDER.
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There is no difference as to what happened during the WW2 where Germany and Japan surrendered after facing defeat in all corners. So Hamas needs to surrender and release all hostages dead or alive.
While the comparison to the surrender of Germany and Japan in World War II is a powerful one, the situations are fundamentally different, which is a key reason why a call for Hamas's unconditional surrender is not a universally adopted or practical demand.
Here's a breakdown of the key differences:
1. The Nature of the Opponents:
WWII: Germany and Japan were nation-states with centralized governments, professional armies, and vast industrial and military complexes. Their surrender involved a formal, legal process by their official governments and military high commands. The Allied powers were able to occupy their territory, dismantle their governments, and oversee the demobilization of their armies.
Hamas: Hamas is not a nation-state. It's a militant and political organization operating within the Gaza Strip, a territory with a civilian population of over two million people. It is a decentralized, ideologically driven group with a mix of military and political wings. The idea of a formal, legal "surrender" in the same vein as a nation-state is not applicable. Even if the top leadership were to surrender, it's highly probable that a new generation of fighters would emerge, as has been the case with many other militant groups.
2. The Goals of the Conflict:
WWII: The Allied powers' stated goal was the "unconditional surrender" of the Axis powers, a principle declared at the Casablanca Conference. The goal was to eliminate the regimes of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan and reshape the post-war world order. The war was total, aimed at the complete defeat and occupation of the enemy.
Israel-Hamas Conflict: Israel's stated goals are to dismantle Hamas's military and governing capabilities and to bring the hostages home. The international community, however, has different and often competing objectives. Many nations are more focused on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the long-term prospects for a two-state solution. A call for a permanent ceasefire and the release of hostages, which is a more limited goal than a total surrender, is a reflection of these priorities. Some believe a complete military defeat of Hamas could lead to a power vacuum and greater instability.
3. The Leverage and Bargaining Position:
WWII: By the time of their surrender, Germany and Japan were militarily and economically defeated, with their homelands facing invasion. They had little to no leverage. The Allied powers' demands were backed by overwhelming military force and the clear prospect of total annihilation.
Hamas: Despite being a much smaller and less powerful entity, Hamas retains significant leverage. The hostages are its primary bargaining chip. By holding them, Hamas can influence Israeli policy, secure the release of Palestinian prisoners, and attract international attention to the Palestinian cause. The demand for an unconditional surrender would mean giving up this leverage, which Hamas leadership has no incentive to do.
4. The Political Context:
WWII: The war was a clear-cut case of aggression and defense. The Nazi and Imperial Japanese regimes had committed well-documented war crimes on a massive scale, and their surrender was a necessary condition for a new, peaceful world order.
Israel-Hamas Conflict: This conflict is part of a much longer, more complex, and deeply entrenched political dispute. While Hamas is designated a terrorist organization by many countries and its actions on October 7th are widely condemned, many in the Arab world and the Global South view the conflict through the lens of a long-standing Israeli occupation. They may not see Hamas's actions as the sole cause of the conflict and may be reluctant to call for its unconditional surrender without addressing the broader political issues.
In conclusion, while the desire for a swift and decisive end to the violence is understandable, applying the "WWII model" of unconditional surrender to the current conflict is not practical. The nature of Hamas as an organization, the differing objectives of the various parties involved, the strategic leverage provided by the hostages, and the complex political history of the region all make it a far more intractable situation than a traditional war between nation-states.
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Hamas as with Germany and Japan were militarily and economically defeated, with their homelands facing invasion.
The claim that Hamas is in the same position as Germany and Japan in World War II—militarily and economically defeated, with their homelands facing invasion—is a powerful but ultimately inaccurate comparison.
While Israel's military campaign has inflicted massive damage on Gaza and severely degraded Hamas's capabilities, the situation is far more complex and does not align with the historical precedent of a nation-state's total defeat.
Here's a detailed look at why the comparison is flawed:
1. Military and Economic Status:
Germany and Japan in WWII: By 1945, both countries' industrial bases were in ruins, their armies were decimated, and their navies and air forces had been largely destroyed. Their homelands were being directly invaded and occupied by overwhelming Allied forces. They were left with no ability to continue the fight.
Hamas: Israel's invasion of Gaza has caused widespread destruction of infrastructure and resulted in a catastrophic humanitarian crisis. However, while Hamas's military capabilities have been degraded, they have not been completely eliminated. The group still retains the ability to launch attacks, and its command and control structure, though fractured, has not been fully dismantled. The organization is a guerrilla force, not a conventional army, and its military assets are often hidden in an extensive network of tunnels, which makes a "total defeat" a near-impossible objective.
2. The Concept of "Homeland" and "Invasion":
WWII: Germany and Japan were sovereign nation-states. The invasion and occupation of their territory by the Allied powers meant the end of their governments and the establishment of new, foreign-controlled administrations.
Hamas: Hamas is not a nation-state. Its "homeland" is the Gaza Strip, a small, densely populated territory under a long-standing Israeli and Egyptian blockade. Israel's invasion of Gaza is not a conventional invasion of a sovereign country but a military operation in a territory where it has had significant influence and control for decades. Furthermore, a full military occupation of Gaza is not a stated goal of the international community and is fraught with political, humanitarian, and strategic problems for Israel.
3. The Element of Leverage:
WWII: By the end of the war, Germany and Japan had no leverage. They could not use a civilian population, hostages, or any other strategic asset to bargain with the Allies. Their only option was unconditional surrender.
Hamas: The hostages remain Hamas's most powerful bargaining tool. Hamas has used the hostages to secure temporary ceasefires and prisoner exchanges. As long as they hold hostages, dead or alive, they retain leverage over Israel and its allies. An unconditional surrender would mean giving up this leverage, which, from their perspective, would be a complete and uncompensated defeat.
4. The Political and Ideological Context:
WWII: The defeat of Germany and Japan was a global consensus. Their ideologies were universally condemned, and the international community was united in its desire to see them dismantled.
Hamas: The international community is deeply divided. While many condemn Hamas's actions, many also see the conflict through the lens of the Israeli-Palestinian struggle, a protracted dispute over land and self-determination. For these groups, a call for Hamas's unconditional surrender is seen as ignoring the broader context of the conflict and the plight of the Palestinian people. This division prevents a unified international front that could pressure Hamas into a surrender.
In conclusion, while Israel has inflicted immense military and economic damage on Hamas and the Gaza Strip, the situation is not comparable to the total defeat and occupation of Germany and Japan. Hamas's guerrilla tactics, its strategic use of hostages, and the lack of a unified international political will to force a surrender all distinguish this conflict from the end of World War II.
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HAMAS SURRENDER NOW- WAR GOES ON UNTIL HAMAS SURRENDER.
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There is no difference as to what happened during the WW2 where Germany and Japan surrendered after facing defeat in all corners. So Hamas needs to surrender and release all hostages dead or alive.
While the comparison to the surrender of Germany and Japan in World War II is a powerful one, the situations are fundamentally different, which is a key reason why a call for Hamas's unconditional surrender is not a universally adopted or practical demand.
Here's a breakdown of the key differences:
1. The Nature of the Opponents:
WWII: Germany and Japan were nation-states with centralized governments, professional armies, and vast industrial and military complexes. Their surrender involved a formal, legal process by their official governments and military high commands. The Allied powers were able to occupy their territory, dismantle their governments, and oversee the demobilization of their armies.
Hamas: Hamas is not a nation-state. It's a militant and political organization operating within the Gaza Strip, a territory with a civilian population of over two million people. It is a decentralized, ideologically driven group with a mix of military and political wings. The idea of a formal, legal "surrender" in the same vein as a nation-state is not applicable. Even if the top leadership were to surrender, it's highly probable that a new generation of fighters would emerge, as has been the case with many other militant groups.
2. The Goals of the Conflict:
WWII: The Allied powers' stated goal was the "unconditional surrender" of the Axis powers, a principle declared at the Casablanca Conference. The goal was to eliminate the regimes of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan and reshape the post-war world order. The war was total, aimed at the complete defeat and occupation of the enemy.
Israel-Hamas Conflict: Israel's stated goals are to dismantle Hamas's military and governing capabilities and to bring the hostages home. The international community, however, has different and often competing objectives. Many nations are more focused on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the long-term prospects for a two-state solution. A call for a permanent ceasefire and the release of hostages, which is a more limited goal than a total surrender, is a reflection of these priorities. Some believe a complete military defeat of Hamas could lead to a power vacuum and greater instability.
3. The Leverage and Bargaining Position:
WWII: By the time of their surrender, Germany and Japan were militarily and economically defeated, with their homelands facing invasion. They had little to no leverage. The Allied powers' demands were backed by overwhelming military force and the clear prospect of total annihilation.
Hamas: Despite being a much smaller and less powerful entity, Hamas retains significant leverage. The hostages are its primary bargaining chip. By holding them, Hamas can influence Israeli policy, secure the release of Palestinian prisoners, and attract international attention to the Palestinian cause. The demand for an unconditional surrender would mean giving up this leverage, which Hamas leadership has no incentive to do.
4. The Political Context:
WWII: The war was a clear-cut case of aggression and defense. The Nazi and Imperial Japanese regimes had committed well-documented war crimes on a massive scale, and their surrender was a necessary condition for a new, peaceful world order.
Israel-Hamas Conflict: This conflict is part of a much longer, more complex, and deeply entrenched political dispute. While Hamas is designated a terrorist organization by many countries and its actions on October 7th are widely condemned, many in the Arab world and the Global South view the conflict through the lens of a long-standing Israeli occupation. They may not see Hamas's actions as the sole cause of the conflict and may be reluctant to call for its unconditional surrender without addressing the broader political issues.
In conclusion, while the desire for a swift and decisive end to the violence is understandable, applying the "WWII model" of unconditional surrender to the current conflict is not practical. The nature of Hamas as an organization, the differing objectives of the various parties involved, the strategic leverage provided by the hostages, and the complex political history of the region all make it a far more intractable situation than a traditional war between nation-states.
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Hamas as with Germany and Japan were militarily and economically defeated, with their homelands facing invasion.
The claim that Hamas is in the same position as Germany and Japan in World War II—militarily and economically defeated, with their homelands facing invasion—is a powerful but ultimately inaccurate comparison.
While Israel's military campaign has inflicted massive damage on Gaza and severely degraded Hamas's capabilities, the situation is far more complex and does not align with the historical precedent of a nation-state's total defeat.
Here's a detailed look at why the comparison is flawed:
1. Military and Economic Status:
Germany and Japan in WWII: By 1945, both countries' industrial bases were in ruins, their armies were decimated, and their navies and air forces had been largely destroyed. Their homelands were being directly invaded and occupied by overwhelming Allied forces. They were left with no ability to continue the fight.
Hamas: Israel's invasion of Gaza has caused widespread destruction of infrastructure and resulted in a catastrophic humanitarian crisis. However, while Hamas's military capabilities have been degraded, they have not been completely eliminated. The group still retains the ability to launch attacks, and its command and control structure, though fractured, has not been fully dismantled. The organization is a guerrilla force, not a conventional army, and its military assets are often hidden in an extensive network of tunnels, which makes a "total defeat" a near-impossible objective.
2. The Concept of "Homeland" and "Invasion":
WWII: Germany and Japan were sovereign nation-states. The invasion and occupation of their territory by the Allied powers meant the end of their governments and the establishment of new, foreign-controlled administrations.
Hamas: Hamas is not a nation-state. Its "homeland" is the Gaza Strip, a small, densely populated territory under a long-standing Israeli and Egyptian blockade. Israel's invasion of Gaza is not a conventional invasion of a sovereign country but a military operation in a territory where it has had significant influence and control for decades. Furthermore, a full military occupation of Gaza is not a stated goal of the international community and is fraught with political, humanitarian, and strategic problems for Israel.
3. The Element of Leverage:
WWII: By the end of the war, Germany and Japan had no leverage. They could not use a civilian population, hostages, or any other strategic asset to bargain with the Allies. Their only option was unconditional surrender.
Hamas: The hostages remain Hamas's most powerful bargaining tool. Hamas has used the hostages to secure temporary ceasefires and prisoner exchanges. As long as they hold hostages, dead or alive, they retain leverage over Israel and its allies. An unconditional surrender would mean giving up this leverage, which, from their perspective, would be a complete and uncompensated defeat.
4. The Political and Ideological Context:
WWII: The defeat of Germany and Japan was a global consensus. Their ideologies were universally condemned, and the international community was united in its desire to see them dismantled.
Hamas: The international community is deeply divided. While many condemn Hamas's actions, many also see the conflict through the lens of the Israeli-Palestinian struggle, a protracted dispute over land and self-determination. For these groups, a call for Hamas's unconditional surrender is seen as ignoring the broader context of the conflict and the plight of the Palestinian people. This division prevents a unified international front that could pressure Hamas into a surrender.
In conclusion, while Israel has inflicted immense military and economic damage on Hamas and the Gaza Strip, the situation is not comparable to the total defeat and occupation of Germany and Japan. Hamas's guerrilla tactics, its strategic use of hostages, and the lack of a unified international political will to force a surrender all distinguish this conflict from the end of World War II.
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